tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post1650755511641506557..comments2008-06-17T09:23:44.351-07:00ASL CI Usershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18433133951094001632noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-74846747362257754522008-06-17T09:03:00.000-07:002008-06-17T09:03:00.000-07:00

HaHa!<BR/><BR/>I forgot about this article!<BR/><BR/>Kim, no. The NAD will not change and if they were about change, then they would NOT have acted stupid when a blogger on DeafRead tried to shove her political ideals down a young child's at a deaf school.<BR/><BR/>The NAD was more concerned about the lack of a JRNAD program.<BR/><BR/>That is the NAD for you.<BR/><BR/>Want to support that

Paotiewww.paotie.tvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-30553484834062325322008-06-16T18:00:00.000-07:002008-06-16T18:00:00.000-07:00

I will be at NAD convention representing Cochlear-so for those who are going, come to our booth! NAD is already evolving-it is the second time in a row Cochlear has a booth at their convention. It is important that information is accessible to ASL users.

heartie7http://www.blogger.com/profile/01005235660286735353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-43952060382403594652008-06-15T21:46:00.000-07:002008-06-15T21:46:00.000-07:00

K.L., thanks for bringing that up. I believe that the ASL Deaf community would accept your daughter if she uses ASL regardless whether she uses a CI. There are already a large number of students with CIs at Gallaudet Univ. and NTID where ASL is the main language.<BR/><BR/>Would young children with CIs be on the fence between deaf and hearing worlds in the future like many hard of hearing people

starrynighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01306592026607585619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-27233401653884938782008-06-15T18:39:00.000-07:002008-06-15T18:39:00.000-07:00

K.L.--That makes so much sense. I've seen studies indicating that bilingaul children who know both ASL and English early on benefit equally to those who learn English and another language-- say. . . Chinese. It doesn't matter which languages are learned. The more, the better because learning more language stimulates language learning centers of the brain that then increase understanding and

Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13093639101711800065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-60797037915732183932008-06-15T14:39:00.000-07:002008-06-15T14:39:00.000-07:00

k.l.,<BR/>Sure hope that we will meet in the near future.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps my earlier message was not clear. I'm with you...best to give both early language base (ASL and auditory training...be it CI or hearing aid) so the child could benefit from both. <BR/>However, I meant to say that if the child does not benefit from auditory training then the child would benefit having his/her ASL language

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-78720278715015047892008-06-15T13:22:00.000-07:002008-06-15T13:22:00.000-07:00

Sharon/Divided,<BR/>I am not a NAD member (nor do I belong to AGBell or any other group, including CAN) so I won't be going to their conference. Maybe one day I will feel that I should join, but not right now.<BR/><BR/>The key to a good education is a good language base. If implanted early, a child can easily acquire a good spoken language base, as long as the child has also gotten quality

K.L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15901738024056889823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-71839408241288236162008-06-14T22:16:00.000-07:002008-06-14T22:16:00.000-07:00

K.L.<BR/>You're absolutely right. Children with CI and who know signlanguage will be an important bridge - as long as both sides allow fo it.<BR/>We can expect great things from them. In fact... they allready give it to us on a daily basis.<BR/><BR/>Jon.. you're wrong... Remember.... Getting good education with CI (speech/hearing) does not mean you cannot get good education with ASL... One does

Cloggyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14472469213332905735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-28512631710994082842008-06-14T14:37:00.000-07:002008-06-14T14:37:00.000-07:00

Paotie,<BR/>Do you believe people and organizations can change their minds? <BR/><BR/>Currently I think HLAA is better about supporting diverstiy within the deaf community, but they haven't been in the past. I knew people who were turned away from HLAA in the 80s because they were deaf and they signed. NOW HLAA actually holds basic ASL classes.

Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13093639101711800065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-90827761385985498682008-06-14T14:08:00.000-07:002008-06-14T14:08:00.000-07:00

Paotie...cat got your tongue?? Am I gonna see you in New Orleans dear?? Sure hope so!! ;)<BR/><BR/>K.L...agree with you 100% that we gotta use what is best for the child...however, I would say that good education comes from good quality teachers who are fluent in ASL (deaf and hearing teachers) in schools. Not that the implant would support better education....that's like saying without the

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-1715616250370676382008-06-14T13:18:00.000-07:002008-06-14T13:18:00.000-07:00

K.L,Jon doesn't misunderstand what is your blog. I can disagree with your comment above.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-61574127513809673432008-06-14T09:23:00.000-07:002008-06-14T09:23:00.000-07:00

Jom,<BR/>One other point. If the child gets the implant early, they can easily gain the same basic level of verbal communication skills as hearing kids. How can you say that the implant will not help education when these kids are proving that they are at or above age level for language acquisition, when compared to their hearing peers? The implant absolutely supports better education.

K.L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15901738024056889823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-34840801637733624052008-06-14T09:19:00.000-07:002008-06-14T09:19:00.000-07:00

Jon,<BR/>You have a basic misunderstanding of what this blog is all about. We support BOTH the cochlear implant (with comprehension and listening skills) and ASL, so that all the bases are covered. However the child learns best is what we want for them.<BR/><BR/>Speech therapy is nothing like it used to be. It would be better to call it language therapy. The goal is LANGUAGE, not simply clear

K.L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15901738024056889823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-24013147488961262242008-06-13T19:44:00.000-07:002008-06-13T19:44:00.000-07:00

Jon, it does not have to be one or the other, It can be ALL of the above. <BR/><BR/>I think it is important for us all to respect the decision and the choices we've made or the parents have made. <BR/><BR/>Why? because one size does not fit all in the deaf world. People have varying degrees of hearing loss. Some benefit from ASL, others benefit with HA or C.I. and others benefit with

Candyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18407395246046461161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-25416267706861825612008-06-13T18:57:00.000-07:002008-06-13T18:57:00.000-07:00

There seems to be two different groups.<BR/><BR/>One groups focus on language and education<BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>the other group focus on auditory and speech/hearing<BR/><BR/>which of the two we should focus on?<BR/><BR/>What is happening to us? Who is doing the dividing?<BR/><BR/>Many Deaf people love music too but they need a language to interact at the same level as hearing people. But seems

Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-46633977333792190682008-06-13T17:54:00.000-07:002008-06-13T17:54:00.000-07:00

Poatie<BR/><BR/>At least, NAD is evolving over the past decade. Will you be evolved as well?<BR/><BR/>Tim

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-31474942919291965692008-06-13T17:07:00.000-07:002008-06-13T17:07:00.000-07:00

by the way...NAD is not a weekend social function at all. We do get together at biennial conferences. <BR/><BR/>Like what K.L. said, we need to support each other and keep working towards that goal...things will get better! I could not agree more. <BR/>We NEED everyone to be involved. It is not just for Deaf/deaf only...NAD belongs to everyone with hearing loss. After all, we are fighting

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-91108091317669705122008-06-13T16:57:00.000-07:002008-06-13T16:57:00.000-07:00

Thanks everyone for your support. It means a lot. I have never wanted everyone to agree, but to support each other. I truly believe that as long as we keep working toward that goal, things will get better.

K.L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15901738024056889823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-87371577953011102482008-06-13T16:52:00.000-07:002008-06-13T16:52:00.000-07:00

Paotie...<BR/>I understand your sentiments and why you would not support NAD. I don't always agree with what NAD does...but that would be true for many other organizations. No one or nothing is ever perfect. We don't live in a perfect world...if we did then we'd not have anything to blog..smile. <BR/><BR/>Kidding aside, just because NAD brushed you off doesn't validate you not supporting them

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-37899137194330424472008-06-13T15:11:00.000-07:002008-06-13T15:11:00.000-07:00

Awesome post-- I share the same sentiment. <BR/><BR/>I'm raising my deaf and hard of hearing kids to embrace the diversity-- after all, that's what makes this world such an interesting place.

Karenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09098620301550608119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-41291072937916414622008-06-13T13:53:00.000-07:002008-06-13T13:53:00.000-07:00

K.L.-<BR/>I love the way you write. Your open-mindedness and calm way of approaching problems is such an asset to this community of bloggers. The D/deaf community will be more powerful than ever once we're united behind the same cause. <BR/><BR/>It's important to applaud ALL our successes while simultaneously addressing the needs of ALL as well. Not every child can benefit from Cochlear

Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13093639101711800065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-88171874771015993822008-06-13T13:41:00.000-07:002008-06-13T13:41:00.000-07:00

Thanks for your posting! I hope to meet you and your daughter someday! I am an ASL user who just got a CI. At the last NAD conference I was shocked to see the diversity of the people there- a lot more people wearing CIs than the conference before that.<BR/><BR/>I am encouraged by your posting because I have been to another Blog which has chosen to contribute to the split in the Deaf community

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-17162699960283578132008-06-13T12:53:00.000-07:002008-06-13T12:53:00.000-07:00

I am a "D"eaf person. I'm a stone Deaf person. <BR/><BR/>I want to tell you that my "d"eaf son goes to an oral school because he has some residual hearing and I made sure that he got the training and made a good use of his hearing ability. I also sent him overseas for enriching his education for a year.<BR/><BR/>Anyone asks him if he has a hearing loss? He always answers "I am Deaf" in speaking.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-74667049307274563232008-06-13T12:35:00.000-07:002008-06-13T12:35:00.000-07:00

I beg to differ regarding the NAD.<BR/><BR/>It wasn't so long ago that the NAD outright declared cochlear implants to be a form of cultural genocide, and after a public backlash, the NAD reversed itself - ON PAPER.<BR/><BR/>If any organization across the land of ours ever had the potential to build bridges between various groups of hearing loss, it would have been the NAD. But, that has not

Paotiewww.paotie.tvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-14365652750492674802008-06-13T11:50:00.000-07:002008-06-13T11:50:00.000-07:00

Wow! Passionately, powerfully stated. Your child is obviously a reflection of you and your husband: beautiful, vibrant, energetic, enthusiastic, and brilliant. What a tragedy it would be if people allowed their personal politics to get in the way of appreciating your daughter or taking joy in however a deaf child chooses to participate in his or her life.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-32499256092553061002008-06-13T11:13:00.000-07:002008-06-13T11:13:00.000-07:00

Very good posting. It is something that we forget... we all have varying different of deafnesses and have different backgrounds. Some have ASL and some don't. Visual and aural. Etc.

Karen Mayeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08489062601774194183noreply@blogger.com