tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post42660630769922599..comments2023-11-03T05:28:39.198-07:00Comments on The ASL-Cochlear Implant Community: Deaf Identity for Deaf Children with CIsASL CI Usershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18433133951094001632noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-26425764052021752612008-05-15T12:14:00.000-07:002008-05-15T12:14:00.000-07:00jr, can you tell me more about your school and how...jr, can you tell me more about your school and how it works for deaf children with CIs? I am interested in learning more about what schools in other places have to offer deaf children with CIs, something like "best practices" of educating deaf children with CIs in a culturally and linguistically affirmative way.ALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339155046116503912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-37313785141320443022008-05-15T03:02:00.000-07:002008-05-15T03:02:00.000-07:00Too bad you're not in NYC. Our school isn't perfec...Too bad you're not in NYC. Our school isn't perfect, but a dual language school for both ASL and English with both Deaf and hearing population sounds like the perfect place for your kid.JRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485752215710916988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-91952196899149332372008-04-30T14:45:00.000-07:002008-04-30T14:45:00.000-07:00Li-Li's Mom,Now THAT sounds like a program worth e...Li-Li's Mom,<BR/>Now THAT sounds like a program worth emulating. There are programs like that springing up all over, but what we need is for them to umbrella together and incorporate into a named program that can then expand into other locations. This way kids across the country will have access to the same level of support. Also, the bigger programs get more studies done that can verify the K.L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15901738024056889823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-30461892864728887232008-04-30T11:39:00.000-07:002008-04-30T11:39:00.000-07:00Wow, AL - we're in a similar situation, in reverse...Wow, AL - we're in a similar situation, in reverse! While we can talk Li-Li's ears off at home, we can't provide sufficient exposure in our household to Deaf culture or the level of ASL immersion required for fluency (because my family is brand new to the deaf community and still at toddler-level fluency (sadly, I think we're learning more slowly than the 2 YO!). But we've found a wonderful Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-70253372943005069942008-04-30T07:41:00.000-07:002008-04-30T07:41:00.000-07:00Wow! It is very difficult to make a decision which...Wow! It is very difficult to make a decision which school a Deaf child should go to. I am current studying as Deaf Education teacher. This summer would be my third class of bilingual and bicultural. I learned a lot and realized that all school should establish bilingual and bicultural program. <BR/><BR/>My wife was hearing until two years old. She did not learn sign language until she was 11 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-34900328714733735832008-04-29T11:48:00.000-07:002008-04-29T11:48:00.000-07:00Your description of the school mimics my history. ...Your description of the school mimics my history. I was mainstreamed in a hearing school. I had no interaction with another deaf child until I was in high school. I was the only "deaf kid" I knew of. From kindergarten, I was transferred to a deaf school. I was then transfered back to a mainstreamed school within six months with a little note to stress oral and not sign, against my parent’s Abbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17272667052295179028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-57737546122978634372008-04-29T06:47:00.000-07:002008-04-29T06:47:00.000-07:00We have to consider pros and cons of both existing...We have to consider pros and cons of both existing mainstreamed programs and deaf schools. Why can't deaf children with CIs participate in both? They could attend the mainstreamed program part time for spoken lang. with oral/auditory or hearing peers and attend deaf school part time for ASL/Deaf culture with deaf peers. That would be an ideal solution today although it'd be challenging switching starrynighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01306592026607585619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-83877131315330353732008-04-28T17:25:00.000-07:002008-04-28T17:25:00.000-07:00As for deaf schools not welcoming deaf children wi...As for deaf schools not welcoming deaf children with CI's, see quote below by James Tucker, Supt of the Maryland School for the Deaf: <BR/><BR/>"One modern innovation that people may see as the answer for their deaf child is cochlear implants. The implants help students to hear, but there is a significant risk, Tucker said. Although the procedure has improved and surgeons are more aware of ALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339155046116503912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-23130432721517751072008-04-28T15:09:00.000-07:002008-04-28T15:09:00.000-07:00If the Deaf schools with the BiBi programs are so ...If the Deaf schools with the BiBi programs are so ASL-only then why were many of the students at where I work with CIs were able to develop spoken language with ease. They can easily switch from ASL to spoken English without a problem.<BR/><BR/>I dont know why that's the case but one thing I know for sure is that by being in a BiBi program didnt impede those children's spoken language developmentShel90https://www.blogger.com/profile/14035871369601312750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-14873655046486788982008-04-28T15:03:00.000-07:002008-04-28T15:03:00.000-07:00My deaf son has the implant, he loves it. AND he ...My deaf son has the implant, he loves it. AND he goes to a school for the deaf in our state. AND he gets auditory services. He gets auditory services twice a week.<BR/><BR/>There are a few successful CI users in this school.<BR/><BR/>My son loves being part of the deaf community and he loves his implant. Why not have the best of both???<BR/><BR/>Deaf momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-8222087948735470032008-04-28T03:11:00.000-07:002008-04-28T03:11:00.000-07:00"Try a Deaf school""No, not for my child. Although..."Try a Deaf school"<BR/><BR/>"No, not for my child. Although I support bilingual Deaf schools, they are not appropriate placements for my culturally Deaf child who has CIs."<BR/><BR/>It is THE attitude the Deaf community is unhappy with. No Deaf adults would want to work in that environment. Why would you expect Deaf adults to work there. Deaf adults prefer to be role models to their own Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-35067731119407921422008-04-28T00:59:00.000-07:002008-04-28T00:59:00.000-07:00Native ASL/CI parent and child,Just pray that "the...Native ASL/CI parent and child,<BR/><BR/>Just pray that "the signing environment" keeps getting public support.<BR/><BR/>RichardOCDAChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04746602479574653008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-31433687990804823502008-04-28T00:09:00.000-07:002008-04-28T00:09:00.000-07:00This blog and its respondents should be quoted bec...This blog and its respondents should be quoted because of its references to lack of role models, also stress and striving in a hearing world by the deaf/CI child.<BR/><BR/>A Martha's Vineyard-like school where hearing status is less important than ability to communicate would be ideal for the deaf/CI child...it offers the best combination of hearing and deaf communities together. <BR/><BR/>There Dianrezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07077219189139398901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-5180498643702011942008-04-27T20:27:00.000-07:002008-04-27T20:27:00.000-07:00To anonymous,"Try a Deaf school"No, not for my chi...To anonymous,<BR/><BR/>"Try a Deaf school"<BR/><BR/>No, not for my child. Although I support bilingual Deaf schools, they are not appropriate placements for my culturally Deaf child who has CIs.<BR/><BR/>Why give him a CI if he is going to be educated in a fully signing environment without ongoing auditory/verbal exposure? If CI fails him (in terms of not progressing in hearing and speaking), nacpachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444439697972932542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-10997943627836895222008-04-27T19:42:00.000-07:002008-04-27T19:42:00.000-07:00Try a deaf school. These days, many students at sc...Try a deaf school. These days, many students at schools for the deaf have CIs. I doubt your child would face discrimination there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-3436457695858240472008-04-27T19:41:00.000-07:002008-04-27T19:41:00.000-07:00Found a link to his several books, they look inter...Found a link to his several books, they look interesting to me.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.trychin.com/hearing_loss_series.html " REL="nofollow">Trychin's books</A>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08559105266924394195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-86148312855066403792008-04-27T19:35:00.000-07:002008-04-27T19:35:00.000-07:00Mark, I'll like to have the title of Dr. Trychin's...Mark, I'll like to have the title of Dr. Trychin's article about stress? ThanksUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08559105266924394195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-67034716009159771272008-04-27T19:29:00.000-07:002008-04-27T19:29:00.000-07:00shel90,I can definitely relate about the muscle te...shel90,<BR/><BR/>I can definitely relate about the muscle tension!<BR/><BR/>To this very day my shoulder muscles are like a rock. I definitely attribute it to being hypervigilant during the mainstream years. <BR/><BR/>I thought it was just me... until I saw Dr. Trychin (who's hard of hearing himself) talking about this at one of his presentations. A couple of friends of mine with the same Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-39617947780830724592008-04-27T19:07:00.000-07:002008-04-27T19:07:00.000-07:00Hi,You mention that you are a culturally Deaf pare...Hi,<BR/><BR/>You mention that you are a culturally Deaf parent. <BR/><BR/>You are your child's best role model when it comes to using ASL (use plenty of it at home) and to understanding Deaf culture. Your child is one of the fortunate ones, having exposure to both ASL/Deaf culture and hearing worlds.<BR/> <BR/>PLEASE NOTE, many oral deaf children are not so fortunate, after spending a whole Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-38343094537606886642008-04-27T18:55:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:55:00.000-07:00Did you know that CI is not well received from Dea...Did you know that CI is not well received from Deaf Community! Being identified with Deaf Community means ASL and culture since there is a big problem between Being Deaf and Non-being Deaf. Being Deaf means natural process without any device technologically and Non-being Deaf means man-made process just like humanoid, without having any soul! In fact cochlear implant is not invented by any Deaf Platonic's Eyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02429962318720397105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-24235952312190599692008-04-27T18:36:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:36:00.000-07:00Drolz,When I was around 25 years old, just before ...Drolz,<BR/><BR/>When I was around 25 years old, just before learning ASL, I signed up for a massage. The therapist made a comment that was interesting...she said that my shoulder muscles were extremely tight and try to relax. However, I couldnt relax them and she was puzzled to why I was unable to get the muscles relaxed. <BR/><BR/>Reading your comment about muscle tension makes me wonder about Shel90https://www.blogger.com/profile/14035871369601312750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-8819844168359087072008-04-27T18:32:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:32:00.000-07:00I recall that year when I co-taught a preparatory ...I recall that year when I co-taught a preparatory English course with a hearing professor for Deaf and Hoh students at Gallaudet University, we developed a bilingual curriculum that included a number of Deaf and Hoh authors, scholars, and professionals to model their literacy development and bilingualism. I found letters and writing by American School for the Deaf's first Deaf students in 1820'sUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08559105266924394195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-25387715173875272642008-04-27T18:25:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:25:00.000-07:00Well said, thank you for pointing this out.Also, t...Well said, thank you for pointing this out.<BR/><BR/>Also, there's another factor that has long-term repercussions. You said it perfectly when mentioning that deaf kids in such an environment strive to be hearing.<BR/><BR/>It's been documented that such "striving" is a form of stress that may eventually lead to physical symptoms such as high blood pressure, muscle tension (or pain), stomach Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-83348087155692892492008-04-27T18:24:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:24:00.000-07:00Where is the school situated? From your descriptio...Where is the school situated? From your description of the school, I find it strictly<BR/>monolingual. Most hearing Americans are very monolingual and would be unwilling to study a foreign language in college --<BR/>opposite to Europeans who are immersed in more than two or three<BR/>foreign languages. <BR/><BR/>JBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832429991980542631.post-88800033516071356252008-04-27T18:11:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:11:00.000-07:00Hi there...I agree with you. I grew up oral withou...Hi there...I agree with you. I grew up oral without any exposure to Deaf adult role models or the Deaf community. I grew up being scared of my future cuz all of my peers were hearing and knew what kinds of jobs they wanted to get but I didnt because I didnt know what careers I, as a deaf person, could do. I was also told by some insensitive people that deaf people lived with their parents for theShel90https://www.blogger.com/profile/14035871369601312750noreply@blogger.com