Comments on The ASL-Cochlear Implant Community: Where are the deaf children?

It is audism at work in reducing ASL users. Thank...

2008-07-10T23:14:00.000-07:00

It is audism at work in reducing ASL users. Thanks to their propoganda.

There is a need to accept ASL as a language for Deaf people and understand that CI alone is not helping much.

CI users still use ASL.

=)

Exactly... I wasn't expose enough to even think I ...

2008-07-07T09:20:00.000-07:00

Exactly... I wasn't expose enough to even think I would need to know or use ASL growing up.

Suey

Those statistics in NC seem similar to those of th...

2008-07-06T22:13:00.000-07:00

Those statistics in NC seem similar to those of the deaf preschool program I had just visited at a public school. It seems that more than 75% of deaf children in that program use oral/auditory method and the rest use TC or other visual methods. Most oral/auditory students would leave the deaf program to be mainstreamed full time at their home schools in Kindergarten or 1st grade. That is where I

Why don't you focus on auditory/oral and see about...

2008-07-05T23:09:00.000-07:00

Why don't you focus on auditory/oral and see about making modification? But it appears bilingual approach is making its way. It will be 100%! Don't focus on ASL alone, you know many parents will not opt for ASL. It takes more than knowing ASL to understand. I use ASL, it helps but speaking also helps.

Just over 15 years ago, if I remember correctly the stats was something like, 10% of

Al,You say that the hospitals where the surgeries ...

2008-07-05T18:13:00.000-07:00

Al,

You say that the hospitals where the surgeries are being performed have a huge impact on the parents' decisions on what educational programs to send their children to. I have a friend who did a research for her thesis on this issue. It seems that doctors are overstepping their boundaries by acting as educational consultants when they tell parents not to send their children to

Prince Andrew,you bring an interesting question. T...

2008-07-03T15:26:00.000-07:00

Prince Andrew,
you bring an interesting question. There is a recent publication about that kind of research in Odyssey. Check this out: http://deafness.about.com/b/2008/05/08/odyssey-on-deaf-children-with-autism.htm

since you have such interesting stats...i'm just c...

2008-07-03T15:00:00.000-07:00

since you have such interesting stats...i'm just curious if you have any specific stats on autism and deafness? i have read approx 1 out of 60 kids born deaf ultimately end up w. AI dx. DS is 'autistish' and had AI MET when in school...dr says he doesn't quite meet it. anyway- was curious what types of stats, education info etc.. you have. we homeschool and find it a great mix for us.

The parents of deaf children see ASL as a bullying...

2008-07-03T09:16:00.000-07:00

The parents of deaf children see ASL as a bullying language not as a communication language.

They see the ASL knives on my backs and other people's backs and don't want it on their kids backs either.

The graphic probably echoes everywhere else.

Richard

We need people to speak up.The claim for the CI co...

2008-07-03T03:07:00.000-07:00

We need people to speak up.

The claim for the CI companies is that D/HH children achieve similar educational levels to their hearing peers.

They do not give specific numbers.

I have several children with CI in my classes. They are NOT academically equal to their hearing peers. I think I can get them there with extra tutoring - in ASL.

They do not talk about

Lane, yes things can happen fast. Thank the Oberk...

2008-07-03T00:35:00.000-07:00

Lane, yes things can happen fast. Thank the Oberkotter Foundation for their free resource materials sent to millions and millions of parents of deaf children. The Oberkotter Foundation can get the credit for the rapid expansion of oralism.

Yes CI is a huge factor in the decline of students...

2008-07-02T17:47:00.000-07:00

Yes CI is a huge factor in the decline of students in ASL/TC programs. I know for a fact that the hospitals that do the surgery has a huge impact on where parents decide to send their children to for schooling. A lot of deaf programs, such as the Learning Center, are actively collaborating with hospitals and developing programs to meet the needs of CI kids. But will it be too late? We need to

Yes, very drastic. As an educator for the Deaf in...

2008-07-02T17:05:00.000-07:00

Yes, very drastic. As an educator for the Deaf in the mainstream, I also see a quick decline in deaf kids in TC programs.

I do see the potential of full mainstreaming for CI kids who are functioning on or near grade level; however I do not support isolation among CI kids in their neighborhood schools.

What I hope to see is regionalizing of CI kids (signing or oral or

Raychelle,I have read somewhere in the late 2007 o...

2008-07-02T15:53:00.000-07:00

Raychelle,

I have read somewhere in the late 2007 or in the early 2008 that Thomas Klumenia (spelling ?), director of research at Gallaudet, said that 30 years ago 10% of deaf children attended mainstream school and 90% of other deaf children attended residential schools. Now the percentages flip-flopped 30 years later. More and more deaf parents send their deaf children to mainstream

Raychelle,I saw some of the same studies. The lev...

2008-07-02T14:56:00.000-07:00

Raychelle,
I saw some of the same studies. The levels they are talking about are hearing comprehension and expression. Basically, listening and talking skills. And the kids who get bilaterals are showing even higher levels.

But take hope. There are some studies emerging that show combining signing with early implantation show a much faster comprehension and a faster catch-up time

more than doubled in only ten years? I think the s...

2008-07-02T13:50:00.000-07:00

more than doubled in only ten years?
I think the statistic is too broad, ten years is way too fast.

Drastic changes in educational options within a 10...

2008-07-02T12:42:00.000-07:00

Drastic changes in educational options within a 10 year span.... sigh. Wondering about the numbers for the past 3 years... hmm.

D/HH children achieve similar levels to their hearing peers in what? Academics? or spoken language ability?

And I wonder what high-quality early intervention means in that article.

We definitely need ASL in the picture - I truly hope DBC